Murder-suicide tampering suspects: I’d do it again
If he were to encounter the grisly scene of a father-son murder-suicide under the same circumstances again, Jerod Morris Reeves said he would do the same thing he did in December: Take the wallet, phone and other valuables from the scene.
In a jailhouse interview Monday with Sky-Hi News and 9News, Reeves recounted how he hacked off the finger of the dead father so he could take the gun.
“That was crazy,” he responded when asked how he felt about it, adding that he shouldn’t have taken the gun.
As for looting the scene, however, Reeves said anyone living out in the wilderness in freezing temperature would do the same thing to stay alive.
Reeves, 29, and Kimberly Mae McCaffery, 35, both of Craig, were charged Monday in Grand County Court with the crimes of tampering with physical evidence, criminal possession of a financial device, first degree criminal trespass and abuse of a corpse.
McCaffery’s bond was set at $100,000. Reeves’ bond was set $150,000.
McCaffery and Reeves were both issued a restraining order that forbids contact with each other. They both stated in court that they will be requesting a public defender. The deadline to apply for the public defender is 1 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 12.
Prior to the interview with Reeves and McCaffery, Adrienne Reeves, Jerod Morris Reeves’ mother, talked to reporters and stated that it was her car that Jerod and McCaffery dumped in Cheyenne as they fled the state after discovering the bodies off the Trough Road southwest of Kremmling in early December.
She said she had no idea what was going on when they called her to come pick up her car. According to Adrienne, Moffat County sheriff’s deputies were waiting at her home in Craig and she was taken to the police station and questioned.
“They thought we were aiding Jerod, and I didn’t even know what was going on,” she said.
She stated that her family has been treated badly by the people of Craig since her son’s high-profile incident. She explained that passersby yell obscenities at her and have thrown items at her home.
Jerod’s not a bad kid, she said in defense of her son. “He’ll tell the truth. There’s a lot of drugs in Craig,” she said, “and he fell in with the wrong people.”
In separate interviews at the Grand County Jail on Monday, Reeves and McCaffery answered questions posed by 9News and the Sky-Hi News. Initially, Reeves changed his mind about the interview; however, he eventually consented.
What follows are excerpts from the interview:
Why were you in this remote area?
Reeves: no comment.
McCaffery: “We were homeless, living in the car, we saw the headlights over the horizon. I was living in Denver, we were driving around (on Trough Road), sleeping in the car.”
How did you find the van?
Reeves: “We were driving on fumes, tired, hungry, broke. By luck we drove down the road and saw the van. We jumped out. I got an uneasy feeling that something was wrong. I needed gas, punched a hole in the gas tank and siphoned it out.”
He said when he looked in the van he saw tarps.
“I knew there was a body. It was freezing outside. There was no way someone was sleeping in there. (The man) made a bed for himself and the kid had a tarp over him. The kid was face down and looked like a doll. The bodies were frozen and swollen. We saw the bodies. We were scared but instinct took over, it was survival.”
What happened after you saw the van?
McCaffery: “I had a gut feeling something was wrong, it was scary. We needed to get out of there and didn’t know what to do. It was sad. We didn’t see the kid’s head until just before leaving.”
What kind of person would take money from a dead body?
Reeves: “The real criminal was the father.”
How did you get the gun?
Reeves: “His finger was frozen, I sawed it off with a hacksaw, I should’ve left that there (the gun). I just saw the money, it was survival.”
McCaffery: “I didn’t see Jerod cut off the fingers.”
What was going through your mind?
McCaffery: “No comment.”
Why did you drive to Washington state?
Reeves: “I freaked out and knew I’d get caught.”
Were you going to fight back when the police surrounded you in the hotel in Washington?
Reeves: “I was never going to fight back. I’m glad we were found by the FBI.”
Were you surprised that this happened?
Reeves: “I don’t really think about it.”
Reeves: “No, (getting) the gun was about the money.”
People say you are heartless for not reporting the incident
Reeves: “You never know what you will do in the same situation. I did what I had to do to survive.”
McCaffery: “I think about those bodies all the time. It’s very disturbing. I was nervous the whole time. We both knew we would get caught. I’m a little concerned why they aren’t making a deal about the son (being shot). I want to know why he killed his son.”
Was there a point when you wanted to call the cops?
McCaffery: “I don’t know.”
Are you a couple?
McCaffery: “We have been together five years. I have a dad that lives in Las Vegas, a brother in Florida and two girls in Greeley with my ex-husband. They are 8 and 10 years old. (McCaffery started to cry.) My ex-husband won’t let me talk to them.”
There are people who think you killed them, what do you say to that?
Reeves: “Really? I could never kill anyone. He was frozen solid; it’s ridiculous.”
What made you want to talk to the media?
Reeves: “I thought I would get a cigarette out of it.”
The affidavit for the arrest warrant of Reeves and McCaffrey is still sealed, according to court officials in Hot Sulphur Springs. The affidavit normally contains details about why there is probable cause to justify an arrest. Prosecutors had three days from Monday to formalize charges.
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